Excellent points as always Chris 👍 My thoughts are around ,personal maybe somewhat now regarded as old fashioned values I think Ellis has been manipulated by the Bristol marketing machine and we have seen how that worked following our encounter at Welford road last season .However I feel he should front up and acknowledge his actions with the video were insensitive to his massive following among the tigers faithful . I hope his values are as I think they are and he makes a statement to the tigers to that effect and moves on and I wish him well and good fortune if he is man enough to own his mistake ..
Is it the handling of salaries or is there an underlying current here with the new management style? Pinchen had to do something otherwise the club would go under; many people in many walks of life had to take cuts or lose their jobs. We survived and are now building a strong club - both Genge & Ford could earn serious money at the Tigers so possibly it IS just for family reasons or maybe, the new management style is too dictatorial? I genuinely don't know the answer, just raising another possibility!
Is it the handling of salaries or is there an underlying current here with the new management style? Pinchen had to do something otherwise the club would go under; many people in many walks of life had to take cuts or lose their jobs. We survived and are now building a strong club - both Genge & Ford could earn serious money at the Tigers so possibly it IS just for family reasons or maybe, the new management style is too dictatorial? I genuinely don't know the answer, just raising another possibility!
Is it the handling of salaries or is there an underlying current here with the new management style? Pinchen had to do something otherwise the club would go under; many people in many walks of life had to take cuts or lose their jobs. We survived and are now building a strong club - both Genge & Ford could earn serious money at the Tigers so possibly it IS just for family reasons or maybe, the new management style is too dictatorial? I genuinely don't know the answer, just raising another possibility!
A blow especially coming on top of the Ford news. Making Ellis captain has proved to be a master stroke on the field, but clearly not enough to keep him. Wish him well, but he may be more difficult to replace because of his influence among the players
Don't remember ever winning in Clermont Chris? As for Genge words simply fail me! He must have a major beef with the club - a club hopefully on the verge of winning again - a club that he captains!!!!! - a club that's got him into the position of England's starting prop! As I said words fail me but I might have a few when I see you on the bus again!!
Excellent points as always Chris 👍 My thoughts are around ,personal maybe somewhat now regarded as old fashioned values I think Ellis has been manipulated by the Bristol marketing machine and we have seen how that worked following our encounter at Welford road last season .However I feel he should front up and acknowledge his actions with the video were insensitive to his massive following among the tigers faithful . I hope his values are as I think they are and he makes a statement to the tigers to that effect and moves on and I wish him well and good fortune if he is man enough to own his mistake ..
Is it the handling of salaries or is there an underlying current here with the new management style? Pinchen had to do something otherwise the club would go under; many people in many walks of life had to take cuts or lose their jobs. We survived and are now building a strong club - both Genge & Ford could earn serious money at the Tigers so possibly it IS just for family reasons or maybe, the new management style is too dictatorial? I genuinely don't know the answer, just raising another possibility!
Is it the handling of salaries or is there an underlying current here with the new management style? Pinchen had to do something otherwise the club would go under; many people in many walks of life had to take cuts or lose their jobs. We survived and are now building a strong club - both Genge & Ford could earn serious money at the Tigers so possibly it IS just for family reasons or maybe, the new management style is too dictatorial? I genuinely don't know the answer, just raising another possibility!
Is it the handling of salaries or is there an underlying current here with the new management style? Pinchen had to do something otherwise the club would go under; many people in many walks of life had to take cuts or lose their jobs. We survived and are now building a strong club - both Genge & Ford could earn serious money at the Tigers so possibly it IS just for family reasons or maybe, the new management style is too dictatorial? I genuinely don't know the answer, just raising another possibility!
The way the Club handled salaries was a disgrace. Did our chief Andrea Pinchen take a 25% pay cut by text 🤔. Good luck Ellis
A blow especially coming on top of the Ford news. Making Ellis captain has proved to be a master stroke on the field, but clearly not enough to keep him. Wish him well, but he may be more difficult to replace because of his influence among the players
Genge has always been clear that it's a 'job' so I'm not surprised. I'm sure Steve has it under control!
I was there when we won. Before they made changes to the ground & they were not the force as they are now.
Don't remember ever winning in Clermont Chris? As for Genge words simply fail me! He must have a major beef with the club - a club hopefully on the verge of winning again - a club that he captains!!!!! - a club that's got him into the position of England's starting prop! As I said words fail me but I might have a few when I see you on the bus again!!
If its true he's going to Bristol then another poor choice. Seems whoever he & Ford are being advised by, they should get rid
Hope Borthwick has a replacement scheme set up.
No one is irreplaceable; but agree that it’s a significant loss